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What happens in Vegas, Stays in Vegas

Post by Swiss Miss on Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:06 am









There are seven tracks on the NASCAR circuit that measure 1.5 miles in length and have either a doglegged or double-doglegged frontstretch; these are commonly known as the "cookie-cutter" courses. Just as recipes differ for a variety of cookies, all seven of these tracks have subtle differences that impact how teams approach them.

Individual track records cannot be ignored, but fantasy owners will find that looking at these courses collectively will help determine who should be started this week.

Horsepower and handling are the keys to success on unrestricted, intermediate speedways and both of those characteristics require a thick wallet, so there will not be very many dark horses driving for lightly funded owners. This is a week in which players should be conservative and evenly distribute their money among marquee teams.


Jimmie Johnson and Brad Keselowski still look to be the class of the field as both have opened the year with back-to-back top-five finishes. More importantly, Carl Edwards looks like he may rejoin the ranks of the fantasy elite after snapping his 70-race winless drought at Phoenix last weekend. Of course, we will know a lot more about the long-term prospects of Johnson, Edwards, Keselowski and the rest of the drivers after Sunday's race. After all, the 1.5-mile layout of Las Vegas is the most common track type on the schedule, accounting for 11 of the 36 races.


One driver that will be happy to head to Vegas this weekend is Tony Stewart. He is the defending winner of this weekend's race, and in his last three starts at the track, he has compiled a 3.3 average finish. More importantly, Stewart has had the car to beat in each of the past two seasons at Las Vegas, leading 54.3 percent of the laps. "Smoke" normally waits until later in the year to get hot, but Las Vegas has been an exception. The three-time champ opens the week atop the driver rankings.

Sliding in behind Stewart are the aforementioned Johnson and Edwards. Not only has Johnson opened the year with a win and a second-place run, but his 9.8 average finish at Las Vegas is the best in the series. Johnson is also a four-time winner at the track, and he finished second to Stewart last March. Meanwhile, Edwards is a two-time winner at the track in his own right, and his 10.3 average finish is the second best in the series.

Owners looking for a couple of potential sleepers this weekend may want to consider Marcos Ambrose and Ricky Stenhouse Jr. Although he is known mainly as a road course ace, Ambrose has been rock solid at Las Vegas. He has a 12.8 average finish at the track in four starts and has finished in the top 15 in his last three. Stenhouse on the other hand will be making his Las Vegas debut at the Cup Level, but the rookie enjoyed a ton of success at the 1.5-mile tracks in the Nationwide Series. In fact, five of his eight Nationwide wins have come at tracks with similar layouts, including a win at Vegas. Both drivers break into the top 20 in this week's rankings, and both could be sneaky sources for top-15 finishes Sunday.

On the flip side, Kasey Kahne is among the big names that could underwhelm a bit. Although he hasn't been terrible at Las Vegas, he hasn't delivered produced the strong finishes like he has at most 1.5-mile tracks. Kahne has just two top-10s in his last six starts at Vegas, and he has zero top-five finishes during the stretch. Kahne still has a spot in the top 15 of this week's rankings, but fantasy owners have come to expect a little more from the driver.

Matt Kenseth has the record from last year to make him a favorite and two of his current teammates are also among the 13 drivers who scored top 10s in more than half their starts, but there is a huge concern within this organization. Kenseth and Kyle Busch both blew engines in the Daytona 500. Last week, Busch and Denny Hamlin had trouble with their powerplants before the green flag waved at Phoenix International Raceway and the Gibbs guys have to wonder just which parts and pieces are going to fail next.

Clint Bowyer finished sixth in last year’s Kobalt Tools 400, but that was not reflective of his early season on similarly-configured, 1.5-mile tracks. In his next five attempts on this track type, he earned a best result of 13th and had an average of 21.8. That might make him a driver to avoid if he had not finished strong with four consecutive top-10s in the fall. Only one of these was a top-five, but that was a fuel-mileage aided victory in the Bank of America 500 at Charlotte.

Stewart’s teammate Ryan Newman is another driver to avoid this week. He finished fourth in the Kobalt Tools 400 last year, but he had even more significant struggles than the No. 14 team immediately following that strong run. He finished 20th or worse in six of the next nine races on 1.5-mile tracks and the only time he showed a glimmer of strength was in the Geico 400 at Chicago after he had already failed to qualify for the Chase.

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Re: What happens in Vegas, Stays in Vegas

Post by sangria on Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:18 am

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Post by Swiss Miss on Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:05 am

sangria wrote:
That text font was nice and big....easy to read.....thanks Cocoa.......

Sure thing San. We all your going blind in your old age. lol!




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Post by emcf30 on Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:54 pm

What luck . Today at Chemo it was NASCAR Craftsman Truck Day. Clay's Driver was Norm Benning owner and Driver of #57. He hug out with Clay. Did photo Op for the Website. It was beyond cool. Gave his pilot our site address. We looked at it while they were there. Checked out the quick link on the main page and Cocoa's Blogs.




This is Norm at Daytona. Came in 17th after just missing the big wreck. He almost gets tagged after he made it through. He is the Red Truck . Working on sponsorship from Heinz.

Check out 2:12 just makes it through.



He also invited us to any race we want to got to. Clay just has to email him and let him know what race. He said our choice. Think we will go hang in the pits with him at Homestead.
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Post by sangria on Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:05 pm

That is sooooo cool, e !!! Glad Clay got a little enjoyment, while at treatment, today!!!
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Post by emcf30 on Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:08 am

Danica Patrick said she doesn't have a concussion from Sunday's hard crash at Phoenix, but she joked she might have one from Thursday night when a rock hit her in the head. "I feel like I got a concussion last night when I got hit with a rock at the [Las Vegas Motor Speedway] dirt track," Patrick said Friday. "It's really sore. It hit me straight in the head, and I went to the ground. Good thing I had a hat on, or I feel there would have been blood." NASCAR officials said there was no need for Patrick to get evaluated Friday at the LVMS infield care center because she was evaluated Thursday night when the incident happened. Patrick also said NASCAR medical officials called her Monday to ask her how she was feeling one day after a hard, head-on crash into the outside wall at Phoenix when a right-front tire blew out on her #10 Chevy. Patrick said her neck remains sore, but she doesn't expect it to cause her any problems this weekend.
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Post by emcf30 on Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:15 am

I agree with Hamlin on this one. These cars do seem to suck at times. He should not have been fined.

Hamlin fined for Phoenix post-race comments:

NASCAR has fined driver #11-Denny Hamlin $25,000 for comments he made following the March 3 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series race at Phoenix International Raceway. NASCAR determined that Hamlin violated Section 12-1 (actions detrimental to stock car racing) of the 2013 NASCAR Rule Book. NASCAR issued the following statement regarding the penalty: "Following the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series event last Sunday at Phoenix International Raceway, Denny Hamlin made some disparaging remarks about the on-track racing that had taken place that afternoon. While NASCAR gives its competitors ample leeway in voicing their opinions when it comes to a wide range of aspects about the sport, the sanctioning body will not tolerate publicly made comments by its drivers that denigrate the racing product."(NASCAR)

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NASCAR did not announce the specific comment that got Hamlin fined, but the following appears to be his primary complaint against the car after the race (per Toyota PR):

Q: How much did you learn about the new race car today?

Hamlin: "We learned a lot. I don't want to be the pessimist, but it did not race as good as our generation five cars. This is more like what the generation five was at the beginning. The teams hadn't figured out how to get the aero balance right. Right now, you just run single-file and you cannot get around the guy in front of you. You would have placed me in 20th-place with 30 (laps) to go, I would have stayed there -- I wouldn't have moved up. It's just one of those things where track position is everything."(3-7-2013)

UPDATE:

Denny Hamlin said on Thursday that he refuses to pay the fine that NASCAR assessed him after comments he made regarding the new Generation 6 car last weekend at Phoenix International Raceway. The car debuted in the Sprint Cup Series this season. "Ultimately, I'm not OK with it," Hamlin said of the penalty. "This is the most upset and angry I've been about anything in a really, really long time  anything that relates to NASCAR ... the truth is what the truth is and I don't believe in this, I'm never going to believe in it. As far as I'm concerned, I'm not going to pay the fine. If they suspend me, they suspend me. I don't care at this point."(Fox Sports)(3-7-2013)

UPDATE 2:

NASCAR VP of Competition Robin Pemberton discussed the fine Thursday afternoon:

Q. Denny Hamlin was saying he's not planned to pay the fine that he was given for his comments. What would be the procedure and how long does he have to pay?

ROBIN PEMBERTON: He also has the ability to appeal. The fines are supposed to be paid as soon as possible, but we're not in any of those windows yet where it seems to be a problem.
Q. Where is the limitation for what drivers can say without facing a fine if they have concerns about the car, whatever?

ROBIN PEMBERTON: We give them quite a bit of latitude, but you can't slam your racing, you can't slam your product. That's where it crosses a line.
Q. If Denny wants to appeal the fine, what would that process entail?
ROBIN PEMBERTON: He has to let us know. He has to write a letter.

Q. He can continue to compete?

ROBIN PEMBERTON: Yes. It's like every other appeal. Over the course of time, you remember mechanics and crew chiefs, whatever, if they appeal, then they can continue to carry on business as usual until the appeal has been heard and ruled on.
Q. Just to clarify on that. When he does appeal, does it also go to the National Stockcar Racing Commission and then to the chief appellate officer?
ROBIN PEMBERTON: This isn't any different than an illegal part or piece.(NASCAR)(3-7-2013)

UPDATE 3:

Denny Hamlin issued the following statement Thursday night: "The short of the long of it is I believe I was severely disrespected by NASCAR by getting fined. I believe that the simple fact of us not even having a conversation about this issue before I was hit with a fine has something to say about our relationship. What I said was 1 sentence taken completely out of context. Most drivers will tell you that we constantly have our AND nascars best interest in mind when speaking. On the other hand I am a person that worked very hard from the BOTTOM to get where I am today and someone telling me that I can give my 100 percent honest opinion really bothers me. Since being fined in 2010 I have been a lot more careful about what I say to media and I felt this past weekend felt completely in my rights to give a assessment of the question asked. I feel as if today NASCAR lost one of its biggest supporters vocally of where our sport is headed. So in the end there are no winners. I said today I would not pay the fine. I stand by that and will go through the process of appealing. Trust me, this is not about the money. It's much deeper. I will now shift my focus on giving FedEx and my team what they deserve this weekend, a win."(3-7-2013)

UPDATE 4:

Statement from Joe Gibbs Racing: "We have spoken with NASCAR and will continue to keep an open dialogue with them on this matter, but we will keep those discussions between the parties involved. We will fully support Denny in his appeal process."
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Post by sangria on Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:30 am

I hate that he finds himself, in this position, but......he was not "out of line" with his comments...... I'm glad he is appealing...
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Post by sangria on Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:07 pm

WooHoo, Roooster........ good start, this year!!!!

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Post by sangria on Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:00 am

Well, this may be a first....... looks like Nascar has the standings tallied, already.....although the rosters are still locked....

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Post by sangria on Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:14 am

ROFLMFAO..... That was great!!!!!!!

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Post by StAugustineFL on Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:42 am

LOL, dude probably had to change his britches afterwards.
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Post by sangria on Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:37 pm

For Rooster.......

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